Embark on a transatlantic journey through time as special guest Jonathan Gal, the voice of recaps (Episodes 5-13), joins Amy in a captivating conversation. They navigate personal anxieties, delve into historical movements, and reflect on the enduring Jewish experience of being "on the run" from oppression for millennia.

Jonathan candidly shares his fears, as a father, husband and resident of an agricultural community along Israel’s central-North coast, delving into the complexities of applying for a gun license. He shares perspective gained from a character in Paul Auster’s novel 4 3 2 1 and wisdom imparted by his son: “If you’re going to run from a bully, you’re going to run forever.”

Comforted by the notion that interesting questions don’t have simple answers, Amy faces the dread of a grim future sealed by the present. She offers an alternative trajectory by way of New York City's storied past, drawing inspiration from Ken Burns' documentaries.  Amy dismantles illusions that the city has always been a haven like Larry Levan’s Paradise Garage, reflecting on its wild ride – from interracial strife and massive public works projects to bankruptcy and 9/11.  Railing against our tendency to take things for granted, she explores the fragility and resilience, multicultural, diverse, and tolerant metropolis, acknowledging how easily it almost didn’t come to pass.

Acknowledging that there’s “nowhere to run to baby, nowhere to hide,” and bolstered by Jonathan’s son’s wisdom, they affirm their decision not to run anymore and stand their ground. 

Recorded on October 24 (Day 18).

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