In the wake of President Biden's visit to Tel Aviv, Amy and Dor navigate the complex terrain of celebrity statements and silence, drugs, and gridlock, and ask whether it’s still okay to dream. 

Amy follows up on a hot tip that some of the terrorists were possibly hopped up on an illicit synthetic methamphetamine called Captagon, inspiring Dor to ponder whether all drugs are created equal. Conversation courses through drugs in the Third Reich, crystal meth labs in the forests of the MidWest, and the urgent need for psychedelic drug reform.  They question the role of celebrity support, reflecting on the silence from #MeToo advocates and recent comments by celebrities like Cynthia Nixon. 

The episode wraps up with a commentary on the slow road of change, both metaphorically and in the context of Tel Aviv traffic.

Special thanks to Jonathan Gal for the recap. 

Recorded on October 19 (Day 13).

Editor’s Note: Please note that this episode was recorded before reports came out that some of the Hamas terrorists were in possession of Captagon. Please note too that nothing herein should be regarded as an excuse for the heinous atrocities committed or that those committing the atrocities knew not what they did; The use of performance-enhancing drugs to carry out heinous atrocities demonstrates intent rather than the absence of it. 

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